Re: [Nolug] Cox: grrrr.... BIG GRRR...

Not really. long distance anyone?

And Plain Old Telephone service is many orders of magnitude larger business
than internet services.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 11:18:28AM -0600, Dustin Puryear wrote:
> I understand your point about why flat rates might be a problem. However,
> we have been charged flat rates for phone service for years, and the
> telephone companies aren't having problems. Now, the actual flat rate
> charged may be low, but I don't see any advantage in moving away from a
> flat rate. I think it would hurt the industry as a whole more than it would
> help.
>
> Regards, Dustin
>
> At 09:57 AM 1/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> >I am probably a little biased because:
> >
> >1) Having been in the access business for 5 years, I know how much it
> >costs to deliver good quality Internet access.
> >2) I've watched most access companies if not melt down, take a beating
> >due to the price wars for customers.
> >
> >I'm also no apologist for monopoly companies of any sort. But I think the
> >current trend in flat rate access isn't really practical. Why should the
> >ISP be cahrging the same price to a "geek" who's running a server in her
> >house as they are charging grandpa who sends the occasional e-mail? I
> >know it's unpopular to say in our circle, but it's true. It just doesn't
> >make sense. Line "squatters" realy hit the small ISPs hardest back in the
> >old school modem days. An industry standard used to be 10 users per
> >modem/phone line. "Squatters" caused most of the busy signals that people
> >were so concerned with (except of course, AOL's obtuse marketing . Big
> >boy ISP would just fire the guy who felt it was his right to camp on the
> >line all day (or use a personal account for business purposes). Maybe the
> >guy wuld call and complain, make a (insert ISP name here)sucks.com page,
> >whatever. Doesn't matter to the big company. However, the small ISP who
> >did that risked tremndous loss when the guy does the same thing to the
> >locally owned and operated company, which gets smeared as "greedy."
> >
> >So all that to say, those of us with flat rate, "always on" accounts are
> >getting a sweet deal. Especially those of us who bang the bejeesus out of
> >"consumer" accounts. Remember how much a dialup account cost, say 3-4
> >years ago? Let's enjoy it while it lasts, or even think about how we
> >could form our own access buying group.
> >
> >Thanks for reading.
> >
> >Edward Melendez
> >http://www.melendez.org
> >
> >
> >
> >At 10:25 AM 1/30/2002 -0500, Mikey wrote:
> >
> ><crystal_ball time="near future">
> >>I see a bunch of geeks going DSL if $DSL_COMPANY keeps rates < US$100 a
> >>month for service with a static IP.
> >></crystal_ball>
> >>
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