RE: [Nolug] Broadbanding together

On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 04:08, Chuck wrote:
> NOLUG Communications?
>
> At that point, anyone involved would eventually be left in the same
> situation as the cable and DSL providers. Once a user begins using the
> bandwidth for business_purposes/reselling_it/hogging_it_to_death/etc..,
> the rest of the crew will want to impose policy restrictions to keep
> away bandwidth hogs (block certain ports, rate limiting, dynamic IPs)
> ... I suppose some people might start complaining about the service
> then. Just one person leaving a P2P application on all day serving
> whatever and BAM, instant policies in effect. I wonder if a service
> contract would go into affect once the original members started moving
> out of the area or wanted out of the deal ... I wouldn't want to be the
> sole fool stuck with the bill for that fat pipe.

I agree totally, which is why I wouldn't want to go in on any
such scheme. A private neighborhood-LAN like I described in
the "[Nolug] 802.11" thread would be more desireable, though.

> How much do T1, DS3 connections run anyway?
>
>
> Pessimist,
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com
> [mailto:owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 2:59 AM
> To: nolug@patientcarerx.com
> Subject: Re: [Nolug] Broadbanding together
>
>
> On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 22:11, Edward Melendez wrote:
> > Well, if you are worried about how BellSouth or Cox is going to make
> ends
> > meet, then change the question.
> >
> > What if a group of users got together, pooled their resources for a
> shared
> > commercial class connection and created a wireless LAN in their
> > neighborhood or office building?
>
> I'm sure that would be legal, since you'd be forming a partnership,
> or non-profit corporation.
>
> All of that personally purchased bandwidth is wasted most of the
> day, anyway, so a pooled resource may be cost-justified (except
> in the prime evening hours, when most people are on).
>
> > At 02:05 PM 3/8/2002 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > >(Response #1)
> > >Jeezus Fscking Xrist. Do what every other adult does: get a
> > >job, prioritize, budget your money, and pay your bills.
> > >
> > >(Response #2)
> > >This is _so_ against AUP, and I can make a very good argument
> > >that it is stealing.
> > >http://support.cox.net/custsup/policies/acceptableuse.shtml
> > >One of the Prohibited Activities is
> > >* Use the Services on more than a single computer, unless
> > > otherwise authorized by CoxCom.
> > >I really don't think that Cox (or Charter, or BellSouth, for
> > >that matter) would look kindly upon a dozen seperate households
> > >sharing one line.
> > >
> > >The relevant paragraph in the article focuses on "you can't tell
> > >us we can't broadcast over 802.11b". Well, the ISP doesn't really
> > >_care_ what the "medium of exchange" is. They'd be just as pissed
> > >if I ran cat5 from my switch to my neighbors.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >+------------------------------------------------------------+
> > >| Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: ron.l.johnson@cox.net |
> > >| Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 |
> > >| |
> > >| "(Women are) like compilers. They take simple statements |
> > >| and make them into big productions." |
> > >| Pitr Dubovitch |
> > >+------------------------------------------------------------+
> > >
> > >___________________
> > >Nolug mailing list
> > >nolug@nolug.org
> >
> > ___________________
> > Nolug mailing list
> > nolug@nolug.org
> --
> +------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: ron.l.johnson@cox.net |
> | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 |
> | |
> | "(Women are) like compilers. They take simple statements |
> | and make them into big productions." |
> | Pitr Dubovitch |
> +------------------------------------------------------------+
>
> ___________________
> Nolug mailing list
> nolug@nolug.org
>
>
> ___________________
> Nolug mailing list
> nolug@nolug.org

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------+
| Ron Johnson, Jr.        Home: ron.l.johnson@cox.net        |
| Jefferson, LA  USA      http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81    |
|                                                            |
| "(Women are) like compilers.  They take simple statements  |
|  and make them into big productions."                      |
|     Pitr Dubovitch                                         |
+------------------------------------------------------------+
___________________
Nolug mailing list
nolug@nolug.org