Re: [Nolug] Python : Confusion

I liked perl just fine. Nor is python the only tool in my shed. I am
going to have to agree with you for the most part though :)

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:47 PM, B. Estrade <estrabd@gmail.com> wrote:
> One interesting thing I've noticed with the advent of Python is that many its hardcore advocates hold a programming philosophy that had been severely underserved by previous offerings. In some ways they act as a group of formerly disenfranchised programmers suddently given a seat at the table.
>
> Another observation is that I do not know of any people that love Perl who switched to Python. I know of many people that painfully put up with Perl who switched over and became huge fans of Python. So I am guessing that of hardcore Python users, only a small percentage used to love Perl and now love Python. On the otherhand, I think that languages like Ruby (and even functional language de jours like, haskell) have a higher success rate at attracting those who actually have good things to say about Perl.
>
> Brett
>
> On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 05:36:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 12/06/08 16:18, Dennis J Harrison Jr wrote:
>> >I see a few people on the list who are confused as to what python is.
>> >
>> >Python is not a scripting language.
>>
>> Of course it is. The beauty is that it makes easy the task of
>> writing Really Large Scripts.
>>
>> > It can certainly be used as one
>> >if configured in that sense... Just like anything.
>>
>> Show me a COBOL script.
>>
>> >Python is one of the only Object Oriented languages available that you
>>
>> "One of the only" is an extraordinary weasel phrase.
>>
>> >can do useful things with in very little time.
>>
>> IIRC, it started as a procedural language. Even if it didn't,
>> "procedural orientation" has been there since the beginning.
>>
>> >You can use regex and unicode as you will.
>> >
>> >OOTB you get support for : HTTP, FTP, SMTP, XML-RPC, POP, IMAP, CGI,
>> >and others I am sure I can't remember right now.
>>
>> What does this have to do with whether or not it's a scripting language?
>>
>> >You get an interactive shell to dev and test with.
>>
>> And...
>>
>> >You can use Rpython and then have pypy generate c for you. (If it
>> >isn't fast enough, and stackless won't give you what you want)
>>
>> Only with a subset of Python syntax.
>>
>> >Take a look at the python standard lib:
>> >http://docs.python.org/library/
>>
>> Been doing so since v1.5.1.
>>
>> >You can also pay attention to:
>> >http://www.python.org/doc/faq/general/#is-python-a-good-language-for-beginning-programmers
>> >
>> >And for examples of use:
>> >http://www.python.org/about/success/
>> >
>> >I know that perception is reality... meaning that I can not 'prove' to
>> >anyone that python is a better language for beginning programmers then
>> >any other language. I personally believe that and would be happy to
>> >help anyone get started.
>>
>> Python was *designed* as a teaching language, and it does a very
>> good job at it.
>>
>> --
>> Ron Johnson, Jr.
>> Jefferson LA USA
>>
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