Re: [Nolug] Who usually shows up for meetings?

From: Petri Laihonen <pietu_at_weblizards.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:05:02 -0600
Message-ID: <493D7DEE.9050709@weblizards.net>

Many good points!!

I did not know about the US election system until the recent presidential election......  I simply was not interested..... but this time since so many people were talking about the politics and elections etc, I learned about the system, and to me it looks like with the lack of the better word, bastardized version of democracy.

More specifically, I learned that different states have so different systems that there is a possibility for a smaller populated state to undermind (or over rule) states with higher population. I've always thought democracy is, to put it simply, where majority rules.

Petri

Dennis J Harrison Jr wrote:

My problem with our government is the lack of influence the tax payers
have in the steering of the ship.

And, I don't think socialism is 'bad'.  I don't agree with the entire
scope of ideas that encompasses any of the governmental archetypes...
nor do I completely disagree with every aspect of any of them.

Can we agree that the people being governed should have the last say
on a choice?

Not suggesting to have every household micro-manage every choice...
but we should be able to actually create our own bills and vote for
ourselves.  Without having a political cast system in place to dumb it
down for us...

No matter the system in place, those with power and money will do
everything they can to keep it.  Those are the seeds of top down
corruption.

Education is our only way to global peace and prosperity?

Who educates?
What ideas are taught in what order?
What is the vetting process?
Is the scientific method good enough?
Where does the money come from?
What role should a politician play?
How many generations will it take for the majority of people to care
enough about governance to be educated on the ins and outs?
etc, etc, etc

I would love to see things like this be topics in every day
conversation.  Instead of who is doing what to some other celebrity...
Or what happened on 24... etc etc.

I think what Finland has right now, works for Finland.  There is no
way that system could be scaled to work in the USA.  That doesn't mean
what we have is any better though :)


On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Jeremy (mailing list box)
<listbox@unix-boy.com> wrote:
  

Petri Laihonen wrote:
    

I know, "socialism" is a curse word here..... I guess it is deeply rooted
fear of Russia, which we know now did not do quite well.
I just know that a good balance of "socialism" and "capitalism" do work
well.
Is there a word for the combination of two?

Petri

      

The term you would be looking for is "Democratic socialism", not to be
confused with the more prevalent form of socialism know as "Stalinism" or
big C "Communism".

J
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