[Nolug] [Fwd: Re: Athlon64 (KMM232149V12029L0KM)]

Thread of conversation I had with AMD regarding the Athlon64 chip. Yes,
I accidentally called it Opteron. My bad.

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> From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
> To: tsc.support@caexmtap.amd.com
> Subject: Re: Athlon64 (KMM232149V12029L0KM)
> Date: 27 Feb 2003 18:43:07 -0600
>
> Thank you, Jay, for your prompt response.
>
> <QUOTE>
> the infrastructure for 64 bit desktop is still developing.
> </QUOTE>
>
> If this means that the chipsets and mobos are not ready yet, then the
> delay is perfectly understandable.
>
> However...
>
> <QUOTE>
> There is no 64 bit desktop O.S. available (MS or otherwise)
> </QUOTE>
>
> Here, I must respectfully and firmly disagree. Linux is ready. IBM and
> SuSE have demonstrated DB2 for x86-64 actually running.
>
> You might say that that means that it is a server OS. Here, again, I
> disagree. Linux is just as much a desktop as server OS (I've been
> running it that way for 3 years, and my wife for 1 year). The full
> suite of Linux desktop apps has been running on another 64-bit chip
> (Alpha) for 8 years! Thus, OSS apps need merely be recompiled to run.
>
> Any "commercial" apps would run in "compatability mode" (isn't that
> what you designed it for?
>
> Anxiously & sincerely,
> Ron
>
> On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 17:24, TSC.Support@caexmtap.amd.com wrote:
> > Hello Ron,
> >
> > Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center. I certainly
> > understand your concerns. While we would like to get the latest
> > technology to the market as fast as possible, we need to make decisions
> > based upon all the available information. As such, our current
> > processor still has a lot of life in it that will allow it to remain
> > competitive. There is no 64 bit desktop O.S. available (MS or
> > otherwise), the infrastructure for 64 bit desktop is still developing.
> > There are few applications aimed at the 64 bit desktop that will be
> > ready.
> >
> > All this combined does not really create a conducive environment for a
> > desktop CPU at this time. The additional time will allow us to fine
> > tune the processor and deliver a better product to the market.
> >
> > I know you are excited about getting a 64 bit desktop as am I. But I
> > think that the puzzle will be much more complete later this year and
> > the market will be more ready.
> >
> > Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, please feel free to
> > contact me.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Jay Taylor
> > Apps Engineer
> > Microprocessor Products
> > AMD TSC
> >
> >
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> >
> > Original Message Follows:
> > ------------------------
> >
> >
> > Form Message
> >
> > Processor Type: Other/Not Applicable
> > Escalated From: startup
> > Processor Model: Other/Not Applicable
> > Symptom - Other: on
> > Knowledge Base: Processor
> > Email Address: ron.l.johnson@cox.net
> > Message Body: Hello, How do I express my displeasure/sadness that AMD
> > is delaying the Opteron until MSFT ships Windows64? The Linux market is
> > much larger than some suits expect. (Besides, there are many who are
> > delaying new h/w purchases until the x86-64 ships.) Sincerely, Ron
> > Full Name: Ron Johnson
> > Subject: Athlon64
> > Knowledge Job Ticket: 0000000000068264022:4707
> > Knowledge Session Log URL:
> > http://139.95.253.214:80/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?SessLog,e=0000000000
> > 068264022,K=4707
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