Re: [Nolug] Purpose of the military?

On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 22:00, mikey@otisinc1.net wrote:
> >> > Heck, why not fund a *real* OS like VMS?
> >> >
> >> As some one else said, whipping out the flame thrower here, ehh ?
> >>
> >> But let's see, which OS had less major security exploits in seven
> >> years on a default install? I thought so.
> >
> > If security was sooooo important, the Dominant OS Provider would
> > have made their OSs more secure long ago....
> >
> > But seriously: who uses the default OpenBSD install? Extra services
> > must be turned on, for the box to be useful. For example: OpenSSH has
> > had quite a few security issues.
>
> <jest>
> OTOH, the only /real/ reason that VMS is soooo secure is because, besides
> Ron and Doc[0], there are only 12 other people in the world who ever
> bother to operate a VAX[1][2].

Get with the times, brother! I haven't worked on a VAX since, oh, 1996.

Here's our *big* machine (it's partitions into 2 nodes), with a total
of 62GB RAM & 16 EV67 1.22GHz Alphas:
====================================
$sho cpu

System: NJEZ01, AlphaServer GS320 6/1224

CPU ownership sets:
   Active 0-7
   Configure 0-7
   Standby 10,11,14,15
     Hard Partition 10,11,14,15

CPU state sets:
   Potential 0-9,12,13
   Autostart 0-31
   Powered Down None
   Not Present 10,11,14-31
   Failover None

$sho mem/phys
              System Memory Resources on 13-MAY-2003 23:48:53.66

Physical Memory Usage (pages): Total Free In Use Modified
  Private Memory (29.99GB) 3931648 1054853 2824316 52479
  Shared Memory (4.00GB) 524288 437209 87079

Of the physical pages in use, 163536 pages are permanently allocated to
OpenVMS.

==============

$ sho cpu

System: NJEZ02, AlphaServer GS320 6/1224

CPU ownership sets:
   Active 8,9,12,13
   Configure 8,9,12,13
   Standby 10,11,14,15
     Hard Partition 10,11,14,15

CPU state sets:
   Potential 0-9,12,13
   Autostart 0-31
   Powered Down None
   Not Present 10,11,14-31
   Failover None

$ sho mem/phy
              System Memory Resources on 13-MAY-2003 23:50:22.25

Physical Memory Usage (pages): Total Free In Use Modified
  Private Memory (24.00GB) 45728 1366413 1770154 9161
  Shared Memory (4.00GB) 524288 437209 87079

Of the physical pages in use, 157989 pages are permanently allocated to
OpenVMS.

==================================

There are also lots of smaller machine...

> </jest>
>
> [0] Doc, the VMS God from SITC, says, "Hi, Ron". $deity, you VMS blokes
> are tight.

Can you describe Doc? Private email, if necessary.

> [1] Of course, I don't have much room to talk. My first Admin job was on
> a VAX-VMS a long time ago. <jest>Thank $deity! I think I may have
> forgotten all I knew about VMS. I knew there was a point to my
> drinking.</jest>
> [2] Or they just install OpenBSD on their VAX-en. ;)

NetBSD!!

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| The purpose of the military isn't to pay your college tuition |
| or give you a little extra income; it's to "kill people and   |
| break things".  Surprisingly, not everyone understands that.  |
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