Re: [Nolug] Who usually shows up for meetings?

Holy socialism batman!

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Petri Laihonen <pietu@weblizards.net> wrote:
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> Jeremy (mailing list box) wrote:
>>
>> B. Estrade wrote:
>>>
>>> Americans hold self reliance as a core virtue. This is not. "me, me, me."
>>> It is rejecting the notion that we have a right to live in a nanny state.
>>> That is not selfishness. I think you'll find most Americans quite charitable
>>> and concerned for their fellow man.
>>>
>>
>> There is a distinct point at which self reliance works to the detriment of
>> everyone, include the self and morphs into absolute self-centeredness. And
>> I'd argue that this country is fast marching to that point, and in some
>> cases, has already crossed it (look at Enron and the more recent corporate
>> scandals).
>>
>> The problem is for society to advance, you can't cling blindly to the self
>> reliance dogma. Sometimes collective will and effort is required. In
>> fact, much of what exists today was not accomplished through self reliance,
>> including things like the Internet and the standards that we use every day
>> in out jobs.
>>
>> When the concept of collective will and effort is blindly dismissed as
>> promoting a "nanny state" or dismissed as being some socialistic or
>> communist idea, then rational thought has left the building.
>>
>> J
>
> Well said !!
> There are always things in a country as a whole which must work, and should
> be properly governed to work better. (For all of us)
>
> Petri
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