___________________ Nolug mailing list nolug@nolug.org Received on 12/08/08Holy socialism batman! On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Petri Laihonen <pietu@weblizards.net> wrote:Jeremy (mailing list box) wrote:B. Estrade wrote:Americans hold self reliance as a core virtue. This is not. "me, me, me." It is rejecting the notion that we have a right to live in a nanny state. That is not selfishness. I think you'll find most Americans quite charitable and concerned for their fellow man.There is a distinct point at which self reliance works to the detriment of everyone, include the self and morphs into absolute self-centeredness. And I'd argue that this country is fast marching to that point, and in some cases, has already crossed it (look at Enron and the more recent corporate scandals). The problem is for society to advance, you can't cling blindly to the self reliance dogma. Sometimes collective will and effort is required. In fact, much of what exists today was not accomplished through self reliance, including things like the Internet and the standards that we use every day in out jobs. When the concept of collective will and effort is blindly dismissed as promoting a "nanny state" or dismissed as being some socialistic or communist idea, then rational thought has left the building. JWell said !! There are always things in a country as a whole which must work, and should be properly governed to work better. (For all of us) Petri ___________________ Nolug mailing list nolug@nolug.org___________________ Nolug mailing list nolug@nolug.org
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