Re: [Nolug] Who usually shows up for meetings?

From: Petri Laihonen <pietu_at_weblizards.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 13:18:54 -0600
Message-ID: <493D731E.1040001@weblizards.net>
I know, "socialism" is a curse word here..... I guess it is deeply rooted fear of Russia, which we know now did not do quite well.
I just know that a good balance of
"socialism" and "capitalism" do work well.
Is there a word for the combination of two?

Petri

However, extremes of them would never work for everyone.

Petri

Dennis J Harrison Jr wrote:
Holy socialism batman!

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Petri Laihonen <pietu@weblizards.net> wrote:
  
Jeremy (mailing list box) wrote:
    
B. Estrade wrote:
      
Americans hold self reliance as a core virtue. This is not. "me, me, me."
It is rejecting the notion that we have a right to live in a nanny state.
That is not selfishness. I think you'll find most Americans quite charitable
and concerned for their fellow man.

        
There is a distinct point at which self reliance works to the detriment of
everyone, include the self and morphs into absolute self-centeredness.  And
I'd argue that this country is fast marching to that point, and in some
cases, has already crossed it (look at Enron and the more recent corporate
scandals).

The problem is for society to advance, you can't cling blindly to the self
reliance dogma.   Sometimes collective will and effort is required.  In
fact, much of what exists today was not accomplished through self reliance,
including things like the Internet and the standards that we use every day
in out jobs.

When the concept of collective will and effort is blindly dismissed as
promoting a "nanny state" or dismissed as being some socialistic or
communist idea, then rational thought has left the building.

J
      
Well said !!
There are always things in a country as a whole which must work, and should
be properly governed to work better. (For all of us)

Petri

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