Yeah, I think it's useful to separate Wales from Wikipedia. In an opinion
piece (
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107104574572101333074122.html)
attributed to Jimmy Wales he says "Everyone who is online should have a
sense of accountability and responsibility."
Regarding Zuckerberg, while he has no issue playing fast and loose with user
data to make a buck, he made clear his view that you should have a single
online identity that you carry around: "Having two identities for yourself
is an example of a lack of integrity." (
http://venturebeat.com/2010/05/13/zuckerberg-privacy/) To which Poole, while
at SXSW, claimed would cost us the "innocence of youth".
I'd argue that anonymity and accountability are mutually exclusive, and that
Wales and Zuckerberg share a similar views. If I had to put Asange in a
group, I'd say he's with Poole/Newmark.
Also worth watching for those who want to hear more from Wales:
http://fora.tv/2010/05/18/Debate_The_Internet_and_Democracy#fullprogram
Jerry Wilborn
jerrywilborn@gmail.com
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Mark A. Hershberger <mah@everybody.org>wrote:
> Jerry Wilborn <jerrywilborn@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Aside, it's funny you mention the "everyone has a voice". Right now the
> > tech media (Wired, etc) seem to be fascinated with the polar ideas of
> "total
> > anonymity" (Christopher Pool, Craig Newmark) vs "total accountability"
> (Mark
> > Zuck, Jimmy Whales to some extent). It'll be interesting to see how
> society
> > coalesces around these ideas as the internet becomes deeper embedded in
> > social activities.
>
> You seem to be confusing Julian Assange of Wikileaks with Jimbo Wales
> of Wikipedia.
>
> But just in case: These two things are not opposites. Or maybe I'm
> misreading what you're saying. Also, putting Wikipedia in the same boat
> as Facebook seems counter-intuitive.
>
> Wikipedia is a volunteer-run organisation website where privacy of
> contributors is closely guarded. This is one of the major reasons you
> don't see paid advertisements on Wikipedia.
>
> Facebook sells personal information that you give them to almost anyone
> that will pay.
>
> Perhaps you were talking about the vision statement of the non-profit
> foundation that runs Wikipedia:
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
> the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.
>
> DISCLAIMER: I work for Wikimedia as their “Bugmeister”.
>
> Mark.
>
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