Re: [Nolug] cPanel?

On Friday 20 May 2011 10:37, Dustin Hinton wrote:
> Look.. Nothing can replace the command line.. But this is a nice tool..
> It's like any tool.. There are screwdrivers and drills.. Both do the same
> thing but each has a unique place..

Did I misunderstand the scope of Brett's question? Obviously. However, I stand
by my opinion of GUI admin tools. They're great for someone from a windows
background that has to admin a *nix machine, but my productivity goes way
down (and my frustration level way up) anytime I am forced to use those
things.

I consider myself a reasonably-highly-trained *nix admin and near-passable
programmer, and market myself as such. It may be cheaper for someone to use
GUI tools, but they're no replacement for a seasoned CLI admin. Many of my
potential clients can make do GUI tools, but at some point the GUI reaches
its limit and the CLI guru gets called in (or the client decides to do
without), and the guru then proceeds to run circles around the GUI tools.

--Joey

>
> Thanks, Dustin :-)
>
> On May 20, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Simon Dorfman <simon@yamlike.com> wrote:
> > I'm not really a fan of cPanel, but I think I disagree with the spirit of
> > your criticism, Joey.
> >
> > A lot of work we geeks do is "building on the shoulders of giants". Of
> > course we are picky about what tools we use. But we often serve clients
> > much less technically savvy than ourselves. So being able to recognize a
> > tool as flawed, but potentially useful for someone else, is a useful
> > skill.
> >
> > -Simon
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Joey Kelly <joey@joeykelly.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Friday 20 May 2011 08:56, B. Estrade wrote:
> > > I have a question for the group. I'd like to hear opinions good or bad
> > > on the cPanel product line (or thoughts on the company itself) - good,
> > > bad, ugly. I am not necessarily looking for alternatives to such a
> > > product, but would be happy to hear about others that might be
> > > comparable or superior.
> >
> > In my opinion, it you are a seasoned admin, cPanel and other GUI products
> > are only going to make you frustrated and mad. Since I'm generally
> > empowered to make technical decisions for my clients, I discourage their
> > use, and will at times turn down work that requires such tools.
> >
> > --
> > Joey Kelly
> > Minister of the Gospel and Linux Consultant
> > http://joeykelly.net
> > 504-239-6550
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