Re: [Nolug] cPanel?

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Joey Kelly <joey@joeykelly.net> wrote:

> On Friday 20 May 2011 10:37, Dustin Hinton wrote:
> > Look.. Nothing can replace the command line.. But this is a nice tool..
> > It's like any tool.. There are screwdrivers and drills.. Both do the same
> > thing but each has a unique place..
>
> Did I misunderstand the scope of Brett's question? Obviously. However, I
> stand
> by my opinion of GUI admin tools. They're great for someone from a windows
> background that has to admin a *nix machine, but my productivity goes way
> down (and my frustration level way up) anytime I am forced to use those
> things.
>
> I consider myself a reasonably-highly-trained *nix admin and near-passable
> programmer, and market myself as such. It may be cheaper for someone to use
> GUI tools, but they're no replacement for a seasoned CLI admin. Many of my
> potential clients can make do GUI tools, but at some point the GUI reaches
> its limit and the CLI guru gets called in (or the client decides to do
> without), and the guru then proceeds to run circles around the GUI tools.
>
> --Joey
>

of course. it's always quicker to go from A to C and gui tools are designed
with step by step in mind. Being able to use the CLI is like knowing your
way through a forest with only a compass at your disposal. A gui is more
like using a map and markers to negotiate the forest. In which case, is
there decent mapmaker out there?

>
> >
> > Thanks, Dustin :-)
> >
> > On May 20, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Simon Dorfman <simon@yamlike.com> wrote:
> > > I'm not really a fan of cPanel, but I think I disagree with the spirit
> of
> > > your criticism, Joey.
> > >
> > > A lot of work we geeks do is "building on the shoulders of giants". Of
> > > course we are picky about what tools we use. But we often serve clients
> > > much less technically savvy than ourselves. So being able to recognize
> a
> > > tool as flawed, but potentially useful for someone else, is a useful
> > > skill.
> > >
> > > -Simon
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Joey Kelly <joey@joeykelly.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Friday 20 May 2011 08:56, B. Estrade wrote:
> > > > I have a question for the group. I'd like to hear opinions good or
> bad
> > > > on the cPanel product line (or thoughts on the company itself) -
> good,
> > > > bad, ugly. I am not necessarily looking for alternatives to such a
> > > > product, but would be happy to hear about others that might be
> > > > comparable or superior.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, it you are a seasoned admin, cPanel and other GUI
> products
> > > are only going to make you frustrated and mad. Since I'm generally
> > > empowered to make technical decisions for my clients, I discourage
> their
> > > use, and will at times turn down work that requires such tools.
> > >
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