RE: [Nolug] Distro suggestions

On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:07, Pietu wrote:
> POLITICS SUXX!!!

I don't think we're arguing about who's right or wrong, or who
should be President, or who's a lying, cheating scum, etc.

> I prefer computers.
>
> P
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nolug@joeykelly.net [mailto:owner-nolug@joeykelly.net]On
> > Behalf Of Mark A. Hershberger
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:40 PM
> > To: nolug@joeykelly.net
> > Subject: Re: [Nolug] Distro suggestions
> >
> >
> > Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
> >
> > > Well, if you're not a drone, "socialist" has a pretty specific
> > > meaning (try 'dict socialist'). Same with "free enterprise".
> >
> > $ dict socialist
> > [...]
> > One who advocates or practices the doctrines of socialism.
> > [...]
> >
> > # That didn't help much.
> > $ dict socialism
> > [...]
> > a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
> > [...]
> >
> > Your original statement was:
> >
> > > Or, are you a socialist (it's a free country*, after all), and
> > > dislike free enterprise?
> >
> > Then, if I were a socialist, wouldn't I dislike Debian since it wasn't
> > owned by the state (and, in fact, it's social compact seems to bar
> > state ownership)? Debian is a product of free enterprise, after all.
> >
> > $ dict 'free enterprise'
> >
> > n : an economy that relies chiefly on market forces to allocate
> > goods and resources and to determine prices [syn: {market
> > economy}, {laissez-faire economy}] [ant: {non-market
> > economy}]
> >
> > Debian fits the bill since work for its development (a finite
> > resource) is allocated by market forces.
> >
> > Back to this last email:
> >
> > > You are absolutely right when you say that "extreme liberal" is has
> > > a loaded context (which is why I didn't use it).
> >
> > Yes, you did. I didn't quote it in my response. Here is the full quote:
> >
> > > Or, are you a socialist (it's a free country*, after all), and
> > > dislike free enterprise?
> > >
> > > You've installed vrms, right?
> > >
> > > * I've worked with 2 extreme liberals who had Top Secret clearance
> > > during the Reagan/Bush1 years, working in the DoD.
> >
> > Check out the Socialism FAQ
> > (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dmcm/Articles/FAQ.htm). Are they a bunch
> > of drones? Who knows?
> >
> > As for myself, I'm neither a socialist nor do I "dislike" free
> > enterprise.
> >
> > I believe in the equal distribution of goods (which puts me close to
> > socialism) but don't believe in using the coercive force of government
> > to accomplish that goal.
> >
> > Also, I own and am currently solely supported by my own business as a
> > consultant (so I have some appreciate for free enterprise), but I'm
> > pretty far from being a conservative advocate of capitalism.
> >
> > Finally, I'm not an idealist, so feel free to use Debian (or not) for
> > your own reasons. I happen to have an appreciation for the freedoms
> > that the GPL is meant to guarantee. Most people don't, though, so
> > I'm not surprised that they use other OSes like MS Windows,
> >
> > And, no, I don't have vrms installed, but I may install it as a
> > curiosity.
> >
> > Confused yet? ;-)
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > --
> > Peace is only better than war if peace isn't hell, too.
> > -- Walker Percy, "The Second Coming"
> >
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temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." or
something like that
Ben Franklin, maybe
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