RE: [Nolug] Distro suggestions

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@joeykelly.net [mailto:owner-nolug@joeykelly.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark A. Hershberger
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:40 PM
> To: nolug@joeykelly.net
> Subject: Re: [Nolug] Distro suggestions
>
>
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
>
> > Well, if you're not a drone, "socialist" has a pretty specific
> > meaning (try 'dict socialist'). Same with "free enterprise".
>
> $ dict socialist
> [...]
> One who advocates or practices the doctrines of socialism.
> [...]
>
> # That didn't help much.
> $ dict socialism
> [...]
> a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
> [...]
>
> Your original statement was:
>
> > Or, are you a socialist (it's a free country*, after all), and
> > dislike free enterprise?
>
> Then, if I were a socialist, wouldn't I dislike Debian since it wasn't
> owned by the state (and, in fact, it's social compact seems to bar
> state ownership)? Debian is a product of free enterprise, after all.
>
> $ dict 'free enterprise'
>
> n : an economy that relies chiefly on market forces to allocate
> goods and resources and to determine prices [syn: {market
> economy}, {laissez-faire economy}] [ant: {non-market
> economy}]
>
> Debian fits the bill since work for its development (a finite
> resource) is allocated by market forces.
>
> Back to this last email:
>
> > You are absolutely right when you say that "extreme liberal" is has
> > a loaded context (which is why I didn't use it).
>
> Yes, you did. I didn't quote it in my response. Here is the full quote:
>
> > Or, are you a socialist (it's a free country*, after all), and
> > dislike free enterprise?
> >
> > You've installed vrms, right?
> >
> > * I've worked with 2 extreme liberals who had Top Secret clearance
> > during the Reagan/Bush1 years, working in the DoD.
>
> Check out the Socialism FAQ
> (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~dmcm/Articles/FAQ.htm). Are they a bunch
> of drones? Who knows?
>
> As for myself, I'm neither a socialist nor do I "dislike" free
> enterprise.
>
> I believe in the equal distribution of goods (which puts me close to
> socialism) but don't believe in using the coercive force of government
> to accomplish that goal.
>
> Also, I own and am currently solely supported by my own business as a
> consultant (so I have some appreciate for free enterprise), but I'm
> pretty far from being a conservative advocate of capitalism.
>
> Finally, I'm not an idealist, so feel free to use Debian (or not) for
> your own reasons. I happen to have an appreciation for the freedoms
> that the GPL is meant to guarantee. Most people don't, though, so
> I'm not surprised that they use other OSes like MS Windows,
>
> And, no, I don't have vrms installed, but I may install it as a
> curiosity.
>
> Confused yet? ;-)
>
> Mark.
>
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> -- Walker Percy, "The Second Coming"
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