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Hi, all.
After the power flickered at my house the other night, something
strange is happening.
Background: I have 2 hubs, a 5-port and an 8-port. The cable
modem, my "work PC" and the firewall's NIC-1 are plugged into
the 5-port hub. (It's because of VPN issues that the work-PC
isn't behind the firewall.) The firewall's NIC-2 is plugged
into the 8-port hub, along with the rest of the LAN.
In order to debug-by-simplifying, I pulled NIC-2 out of the F/W.
Now, if I plug F/W NIC-1 into the 5-port hub, everything works
fine: I can go out to the internet. BUT, if I plug F/W NIC-1
into a known-good-port in the 8-port hub, the light in the back
of the NIC flashes very rapidly, and the light in the hub corres-
ponding to the known-good-port flashes yellow.
Of course, between plugging it into the 5-port hub and 8-port
hub, I reconfigure ifcfg-eth0 to give it the correct IP address,
netmask, etc.
Anyone have a clue as to what the problem is? My wife is getting
*VERY* aggrivated!!
Thanks,
Ron
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This may sound stupid, but try some different cables. I had a similar
problem with a proprietary hub and nic that has only 4 wires active in it.
I had to custom build a cable to match the pins. An 8 wire cable wouldn't
work.
~
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Johnson" <ronjohnsonjr@yahoo.com>
To: <nolug@nolug.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:12 AM
Subject: [Nolug] whaky LAN problem
> Hi, all.
>
> After the power flickered at my house the other night, something
> strange is happening.
>
> Background: I have 2 hubs, a 5-port and an 8-port. The cable
> modem, my "work PC" and the firewall's NIC-1 are plugged into
> the 5-port hub. (It's because of VPN issues that the work-PC
> isn't behind the firewall.) The firewall's NIC-2 is plugged
> into the 8-port hub, along with the rest of the LAN.
>
> In order to debug-by-simplifying, I pulled NIC-2 out of the F/W.
>
> Now, if I plug F/W NIC-1 into the 5-port hub, everything works
> fine: I can go out to the internet. BUT, if I plug F/W NIC-1
> into a known-good-port in the 8-port hub, the light in the back
> of the NIC flashes very rapidly, and the light in the hub corres-
> ponding to the known-good-port flashes yellow.
>
> Of course, between plugging it into the 5-port hub and 8-port
> hub, I reconfigure ifcfg-eth0 to give it the correct IP address,
> netmask, etc.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to what the problem is? My wife is getting
> *VERY* aggrivated!!
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
> =====
> +---------------------------------------------------------+
> | Ron Johnson, Jr. ron.l.johnson@home.com |
> | Lockheed Martin IMS ronald.l.johnson@lmco.com |
> | WWW Mail ronjohnsonjr@yahoo.com |
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Is there a change in speeds when you change NICs/HUBs? Which of the NICs
and which HUBs are 10Mbps, 100 Mbps, or 10/100 auto-sensing?
The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem once. I had an
10/100 auto-sensing HUB that worked just dandy but just decided to
retire one day. After trying many different factory made cables, making
my own cables, changing NICs in and out, I finally discovered that it
just wouldn't work with 100MBps connections any longer, but worked with
10Mbps connections just fine.
--------
Chuck
P.S. - Would it happen to be a D-Link HUB?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com
[mailto:owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:12 AM
To: nolug@nolug.org
Subject: [Nolug] whaky LAN problem
Hi, all.
After the power flickered at my house the other night, something
strange is happening.
Background: I have 2 hubs, a 5-port and an 8-port. The cable
modem, my "work PC" and the firewall's NIC-1 are plugged into
the 5-port hub. (It's because of VPN issues that the work-PC
isn't behind the firewall.) The firewall's NIC-2 is plugged
into the 8-port hub, along with the rest of the LAN.
In order to debug-by-simplifying, I pulled NIC-2 out of the F/W.
Now, if I plug F/W NIC-1 into the 5-port hub, everything works
fine: I can go out to the internet. BUT, if I plug F/W NIC-1
into a known-good-port in the 8-port hub, the light in the back
of the NIC flashes very rapidly, and the light in the hub corres-
ponding to the known-good-port flashes yellow.
Of course, between plugging it into the 5-port hub and 8-port
hub, I reconfigure ifcfg-eth0 to give it the correct IP address,
netmask, etc.
Anyone have a clue as to what the problem is? My wife is getting
*VERY* aggrivated!!
Thanks,
Ron
=====
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Ron Johnson, Jr. ron.l.johnson@home.com |
| Lockheed Martin IMS ronald.l.johnson@lmco.com |
| WWW Mail ronjohnsonjr@yahoo.com |
| Overused words: community, feel, fun |
| Underused word: think |
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The NIC is 10/100, and the 8-port hub is 10/100 auto-sensing, so
even if the 5-port hub is only 10Mbps, things sould still work.
Last night, just in case, I ordered a 5- and 16-port auto-sensing
switches from TigerDirect...
--- Chuck <ohchucki@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Is there a change in speeds when you change NICs/HUBs? Which of the
> NICs
> and which HUBs are 10Mbps, 100 Mbps, or 10/100 auto-sensing?
>
> The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem once. I had an
> 10/100 auto-sensing HUB that worked just dandy but just decided to
> retire one day. After trying many different factory made cables,
> making
> my own cables, changing NICs in and out, I finally discovered that
> it
> just wouldn't work with 100MBps connections any longer, but worked
> with
> 10Mbps connections just fine.
>
> --------
> Chuck
>
>
> P.S. - Would it happen to be a D-Link HUB?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com
> [mailto:owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: nolug@nolug.org
> Subject: [Nolug] whaky LAN problem
>
>
> Hi, all.
>
> After the power flickered at my house the other night, something
> strange is happening.
>
> Background: I have 2 hubs, a 5-port and an 8-port. The cable
> modem, my "work PC" and the firewall's NIC-1 are plugged into
> the 5-port hub. (It's because of VPN issues that the work-PC
> isn't behind the firewall.) The firewall's NIC-2 is plugged
> into the 8-port hub, along with the rest of the LAN.
>
> In order to debug-by-simplifying, I pulled NIC-2 out of the F/W.
>
> Now, if I plug F/W NIC-1 into the 5-port hub, everything works
> fine: I can go out to the internet. BUT, if I plug F/W NIC-1
> into a known-good-port in the 8-port hub, the light in the back
> of the NIC flashes very rapidly, and the light in the hub corres-
> ponding to the known-good-port flashes yellow.
>
> Of course, between plugging it into the 5-port hub and 8-port
> hub, I reconfigure ifcfg-eth0 to give it the correct IP address,
> netmask, etc.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to what the problem is? My wife is getting
> *VERY* aggrivated!!
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
> =====
> +---------------------------------------------------------+
> | Ron Johnson, Jr. ron.l.johnson@home.com |
> | Lockheed Martin IMS ronald.l.johnson@lmco.com |
> | WWW Mail ronjohnsonjr@yahoo.com |
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> | Underused word: think |
> +---------------------------------------------------------+
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should is the operative word. I've seen auto-sensing not act sensibly
before. Remember with switches that you're adding duplex into
the equation now.
don't forget to check the duplex settings on your boxes. When you insert
the drivers into the kernel for most NICs it's usually autosensing, but
yours may not be. easiest way to check is to unplug your network cable then
plug it back in. Syslog should log an entry describing how the NIC negotiates.
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:38:25AM -0800, Ron Johnson wrote:
> The NIC is 10/100, and the 8-port hub is 10/100 auto-sensing, so
> even if the 5-port hub is only 10Mbps, things sould still work.
>
> Last night, just in case, I ordered a 5- and 16-port auto-sensing
> switches from TigerDirect...
>
> --- Chuck <ohchucki@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Is there a change in speeds when you change NICs/HUBs? Which of the
> > NICs
> > and which HUBs are 10Mbps, 100 Mbps, or 10/100 auto-sensing?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem once. I had an
> > 10/100 auto-sensing HUB that worked just dandy but just decided to
> > retire one day. After trying many different factory made cables,
> > making
> > my own cables, changing NICs in and out, I finally discovered that
> > it
> > just wouldn't work with 100MBps connections any longer, but worked
> > with
> > 10Mbps connections just fine.
> >
> > --------
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > P.S. - Would it happen to be a D-Link HUB?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com
> > [mailto:owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: nolug@nolug.org
> > Subject: [Nolug] whaky LAN problem
> >
> >
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > After the power flickered at my house the other night, something
> > strange is happening.
> >
> > Background: I have 2 hubs, a 5-port and an 8-port. The cable
> > modem, my "work PC" and the firewall's NIC-1 are plugged into
> > the 5-port hub. (It's because of VPN issues that the work-PC
> > isn't behind the firewall.) The firewall's NIC-2 is plugged
> > into the 8-port hub, along with the rest of the LAN.
> >
> > In order to debug-by-simplifying, I pulled NIC-2 out of the F/W.
> >
> > Now, if I plug F/W NIC-1 into the 5-port hub, everything works
> > fine: I can go out to the internet. BUT, if I plug F/W NIC-1
> > into a known-good-port in the 8-port hub, the light in the back
> > of the NIC flashes very rapidly, and the light in the hub corres-
> > ponding to the known-good-port flashes yellow.
> >
> > Of course, between plugging it into the 5-port hub and 8-port
> > hub, I reconfigure ifcfg-eth0 to give it the correct IP address,
> > netmask, etc.
> >
> > Anyone have a clue as to what the problem is? My wife is getting
> > *VERY* aggrivated!!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ron
> >
> > =====
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Ron Johnson, Jr. ron.l.johnson@home.com |
> > | Lockheed Martin IMS ronald.l.johnson@lmco.com |
> > | WWW Mail ronjohnsonjr@yahoo.com |
> > | Overused words: community, feel, fun |
> > | Underused word: think |
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
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On Wednesday 05 December 2001 12:42 pm, Scott Harney wrote:
> should is the operative word. I've seen auto-sensing not act
> sensibly before. Remember with switches that you're adding duplex
> into the equation now.
[snip]
Well, the 2 switches are installed, and I'm back in business.
Looks like the 8-port hub got buzzed a bit during the power surge.
The 5-port hub still worked, but I dumped it anyway.
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| |
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You dumped a perfectly working hub without telling anybody here!?
You know you will be crucified, right?
On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On Wednesday 05 December 2001 12:42 pm, Scott Harney wrote:
> > should is the operative word. I've seen auto-sensing not act
> > sensibly before. Remember with switches that you're adding duplex
> > into the equation now.
> [snip]
>
> Well, the 2 switches are installed, and I'm back in business.
> Looks like the 8-port hub got buzzed a bit during the power surge.
> The 5-port hub still worked, but I dumped it anyway.
>
> - --
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> | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: ron.l.johnson@home.com |
> | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 |
> | |
> | "Why should we not accept all in favor of woman suffrage |
> | to our platform and association even though they be rabid |
> | pro-slavery Democrats." |
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On Friday 07 December 2001 08:43 am, Konrad wrote:
> You dumped a perfectly working hub without telling anybody here!?
>
> You know you will be crucified, right?
Well, I *figuratively* dumped the 5-port hub. The 8-port hub
isn't actually in the dumper either.
So, if anyone wants a squirrelly 8-port hub, I'll bring it to
the 20-Dec meeting...
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> > On Wednesday 05 December 2001 12:42 pm, Scott Harney wrote:
> > > should is the operative word. I've seen auto-sensing not act
> > > sensibly before. Remember with switches that you're adding
> > > duplex into the equation now.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > Well, the 2 switches are installed, and I'm back in business.
> > Looks like the 8-port hub got buzzed a bit during the power surge.
> > The 5-port hub still worked, but I dumped it anyway.
> >
> > - --
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> >
> > | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: ron.l.johnson@home.com |
> > | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org:81 |
> > |
> > | "Why should we not accept all in favor of woman suffrage |
> > | to our platform and association even though they be rabid |
> > | pro-slavery Democrats." |
> > | Susan B. Anthony, _History_of_Woman_Suffrage_ |
> > | http://www.ifeminists.com/introduction/essays/introduction.html |
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Right, my HUB should have worked also but it didn't. Try plugging in
other 10/100 NICs into that particular port and see what happens.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Harney
Sent: Wed 12/5/2001 12:42 PM
To: nolug@patientcarerx.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Nolug] whaky LAN problem
should is the operative word. I've seen auto-sensing not act
sensibly
before. Remember with switches that you're adding duplex into
the equation now.
don't forget to check the duplex settings on your boxes. When
you insert
the drivers into the kernel for most NICs it's usually
autosensing, but
yours may not be. easiest way to check is to unplug your
network cable then
plug it back in. Syslog should log an entry describing how the
NIC negotiates.
On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:38:25AM -0800, Ron Johnson wrote:
> The NIC is 10/100, and the 8-port hub is 10/100 auto-sensing,
so
> even if the 5-port hub is only 10Mbps, things sould still
work.
>
> Last night, just in case, I ordered a 5- and 16-port
auto-sensing
> switches from TigerDirect...
>
> --- Chuck <ohchucki@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Is there a change in speeds when you change NICs/HUBs? Which
of the
> > NICs
> > and which HUBs are 10Mbps, 100 Mbps, or 10/100 auto-sensing?
> >
> > The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem once. I
had an
> > 10/100 auto-sensing HUB that worked just dandy but just
decided to
> > retire one day. After trying many different factory made
cables,
> > making
> > my own cables, changing NICs in and out, I finally
discovered that
> > it
> > just wouldn't work with 100MBps connections any longer, but
worked
> > with
> > 10Mbps connections just fine.
> >
> > --------
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > P.S. - Would it happen to be a D-Link HUB?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com
> > [mailto:owner-nolug@patientcarerx.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Johnson
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: nolug@nolug.org
> > Subject: [Nolug] whaky LAN problem
> >
> >
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > After the power flickered at my house the other night,
something
> > strange is happening.
> >
> > Background: I have 2 hubs, a 5-port and an 8-port. The
cable
> > modem, my "work PC" and the firewall's NIC-1 are plugged
into
> > the 5-port hub. (It's because of VPN issues that the
work-PC
> > isn't behind the firewall.) The firewall's NIC-2 is plugged
> > into the 8-port hub, along with the rest of the LAN.
> >
> > In order to debug-by-simplifying, I pulled NIC-2 out of the
F/W.
> >
> > Now, if I plug F/W NIC-1 into the 5-port hub, everything
works
> > fine: I can go out to the internet. BUT, if I plug F/W
NIC-1
> > into a known-good-port in the 8-port hub, the light in the
back
> > of the NIC flashes very rapidly, and the light in the hub
corres-
> > ponding to the known-good-port flashes yellow.
> >
> > Of course, between plugging it into the 5-port hub and
8-port
> > hub, I reconfigure ifcfg-eth0 to give it the correct IP
address,
> > netmask, etc.
> >
> > Anyone have a clue as to what the problem is? My wife is
getting
> > *VERY* aggrivated!!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ron
> >
> > =====
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
> > | Ron Johnson, Jr. ron.l.johnson@home.com |
> > | Lockheed Martin IMS ronald.l.johnson@lmco.com |
> > | WWW Mail ronjohnsonjr@yahoo.com |
> > | Overused words: community, feel, fun |
> > | Underused word: think |
> > +---------------------------------------------------------+
> >
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