Re: [Nolug] Cox: grrrr.... BIG GRRR...

On 30 Jan 2002 13:22:46 -0600 Scott Harney <scott_harney@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Joey Kelly <looseduk@ductape.net> writes:
>
> I've demonstrated this before in my areas. Kazaa and morpheus consume
> 90%+ of all upstream bandwidth. http, smtp, et al is negligible.

I wonder what ports these p2p apps run on. Block them! But then 1/2
your revenue stream would leave. However, 90% of your bandwidth would
disappear, so you wouldn't need to increase b/w for a long time...

> These are not really arguments for Charles@Cox though. He's likely
> fully aware. You're dealing with an entrenched corporate mentality
> that doesn't really understand the technical issues involved. It's
> about $$ folks.
>
> I don't know if Cox can do adjustible caps themselves, but it is
> certainly possible. We sell three different caps to residential
> customers. I wrote the provisioning system we use in our area (the
> gulf coast) and would be glad to sell it to Cox... :)
>
> > Seems to me that most bandwidth hogs run napster or some other P2P app. Email
> > is sporadic and light, so is smtp, http, DNS, etc..
> >
> > --Joey
> >
> > Thou spake:
> > >Three things:
> > >1. @Home & Cox _advertise_ Always On
> > >2. My web server uses so little bandwidth, it's pathetic. NOLUG's
> > > list server generates a relatively low volume. Attaching scanned
> > > pictures to an email, then CCing it to family and friends generates
> > > more.
> > >3. Incoming streaming video, Flash, etc. uses a _large_ bandwidth.
> > >
> > >On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:57:00 -0600 Edward Melendez <e@melendez.org> wrote:
> > >> I am probably a little biased because:
> > >>
> > >> 1) Having been in the access business for 5 years, I know how much it
> > >> costs to deliver good quality Internet access.
> > >> 2) I've watched most access companies if not melt down, take a beating
> > >> due to the price wars for customers.
> > >>
> > >> I'm also no apologist for monopoly companies of any sort. But I think the
> > >> current trend in flat rate access isn't really practical. Why should the
> > >> ISP be cahrging the same price to a "geek" who's running a server in her
> > >> house as they are charging grandpa who sends the occasional e-mail? I
> > >> know it's unpopular to say in our circle, but it's true. It just doesn't
> > >> make sense. Line "squatters" realy hit the small ISPs hardest back in the
> > >> old school modem days. An industry standard used to be 10 users per
> > >> modem/phone line. "Squatters" caused most of the busy signals that people
> > >> were so concerned with (except of course, AOL's obtuse marketing . Big
> > >> boy ISP would just fire the guy who felt it was his right to camp on the
> > >> line all day (or use a personal account for business purposes). Maybe the
> > >> guy wuld call and complain, make a (insert ISP name here)sucks.com page,
> > >> whatever. Doesn't matter to the big company. However, the small ISP who
> > >> did that risked tremndous loss when the guy does the same thing to the
> > >> locally owned and operated company, which gets smeared as "greedy."
> > >>
> > >> So all that to say, those of us with flat rate, "always on" accounts are
> > >> getting a sweet deal. Especially those of us who bang the bejeesus out of
> > >> "consumer" accounts. Remember how much a dialup account cost, say 3-4
> > >> years ago? Let's enjoy it while it lasts, or even think about how we
> > >> could form our own access buying group.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for reading.
> > >>
> > >> Edward Melendez
> > >> http://www.melendez.org
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At 10:25 AM 1/30/2002 -0500, Mikey wrote:
> > >>
> > >> <crystal_ball time="near future">
> > >>
> > >> >I see a bunch of geeks going DSL if $DSL_COMPANY keeps rates < US$100 a
> > >> >month for service with a static IP.
> > >> ></crystal_ball>
> >
> > --
> >
> > Joey Kelly
> > < Minister of the Gospel | Computer Networking Consultant >
> > http://joeykelly.dhs.org
> >
> >
> > "When Government fears the people, it's liberty.
> > When people fear the Government, it's tyranny."
> > -- Benjamin Franklin
> >
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> Scott Harney <scott_harney@yahoo.com>
> Broadband Services Manager (LA)
> Charter Communications
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