Re: [Nolug] Cox: grrrr.... BIG GRRR...

Joey Kelly <looseduk@ductape.net> writes:

I've demonstrated this before in my areas. Kazaa and morpheus consume
90%+ of all upstream bandwidth. http, smtp, et al is negligible.
These are not really arguments for Charles@Cox though. He's likely
fully aware. You're dealing with an entrenched corporate mentality
that doesn't really understand the technical issues involved. It's
about $$ folks.

I don't know if Cox can do adjustible caps themselves, but it is
certainly possible. We sell three different caps to residential
customers. I wrote the provisioning system we use in our area (the
gulf coast) and would be glad to sell it to Cox... :)

> Seems to me that most bandwidth hogs run napster or some other P2P app. Email
> is sporadic and light, so is smtp, http, DNS, etc..
>
> --Joey
>
> Thou spake:
> >Three things:
> >1. @Home & Cox _advertise_ Always On
> >2. My web server uses so little bandwidth, it's pathetic. NOLUG's
> > list server generates a relatively low volume. Attaching scanned
> > pictures to an email, then CCing it to family and friends generates
> > more.
> >3. Incoming streaming video, Flash, etc. uses a _large_ bandwidth.
> >
> >On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:57:00 -0600 Edward Melendez <e@melendez.org> wrote:
> >> I am probably a little biased because:
> >>
> >> 1) Having been in the access business for 5 years, I know how much it
> >> costs to deliver good quality Internet access.
> >> 2) I've watched most access companies if not melt down, take a beating
> >> due to the price wars for customers.
> >>
> >> I'm also no apologist for monopoly companies of any sort. But I think the
> >> current trend in flat rate access isn't really practical. Why should the
> >> ISP be cahrging the same price to a "geek" who's running a server in her
> >> house as they are charging grandpa who sends the occasional e-mail? I
> >> know it's unpopular to say in our circle, but it's true. It just doesn't
> >> make sense. Line "squatters" realy hit the small ISPs hardest back in the
> >> old school modem days. An industry standard used to be 10 users per
> >> modem/phone line. "Squatters" caused most of the busy signals that people
> >> were so concerned with (except of course, AOL's obtuse marketing . Big
> >> boy ISP would just fire the guy who felt it was his right to camp on the
> >> line all day (or use a personal account for business purposes). Maybe the
> >> guy wuld call and complain, make a (insert ISP name here)sucks.com page,
> >> whatever. Doesn't matter to the big company. However, the small ISP who
> >> did that risked tremndous loss when the guy does the same thing to the
> >> locally owned and operated company, which gets smeared as "greedy."
> >>
> >> So all that to say, those of us with flat rate, "always on" accounts are
> >> getting a sweet deal. Especially those of us who bang the bejeesus out of
> >> "consumer" accounts. Remember how much a dialup account cost, say 3-4
> >> years ago? Let's enjoy it while it lasts, or even think about how we
> >> could form our own access buying group.
> >>
> >> Thanks for reading.
> >>
> >> Edward Melendez
> >> http://www.melendez.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 10:25 AM 1/30/2002 -0500, Mikey wrote:
> >>
> >> <crystal_ball time="near future">
> >>
> >> >I see a bunch of geeks going DSL if $DSL_COMPANY keeps rates < US$100 a
> >> >month for service with a static IP.
> >> ></crystal_ball>
>
> --
>
> Joey Kelly
> < Minister of the Gospel | Computer Networking Consultant >
> http://joeykelly.dhs.org
>
>
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Scott Harney <scott_harney@yahoo.com>
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Charter Communications
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