Re: [Nolug] Cox: grrrr.... BIG GRRR...

From: Joey Kelly <looseduk_at_ductape.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:58:31 +0000
Message-Id: <02013012583105.31775@rahab>

Seems to me that most bandwidth hogs run napster or some other P2P app. Email
is sporadic and light, so is smtp, http, DNS, etc..

--Joey

Thou spake:
>Three things:
>1. @Home & Cox _advertise_ Always On
>2. My web server uses so little bandwidth, it's pathetic. NOLUG's
> list server generates a relatively low volume. Attaching scanned
> pictures to an email, then CCing it to family and friends generates
> more.
>3. Incoming streaming video, Flash, etc. uses a _large_ bandwidth.
>
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:57:00 -0600 Edward Melendez <e@melendez.org> wrote:
>> I am probably a little biased because:
>>
>> 1) Having been in the access business for 5 years, I know how much it
>> costs to deliver good quality Internet access.
>> 2) I've watched most access companies if not melt down, take a beating
>> due to the price wars for customers.
>>
>> I'm also no apologist for monopoly companies of any sort. But I think the
>> current trend in flat rate access isn't really practical. Why should the
>> ISP be cahrging the same price to a "geek" who's running a server in her
>> house as they are charging grandpa who sends the occasional e-mail? I
>> know it's unpopular to say in our circle, but it's true. It just doesn't
>> make sense. Line "squatters" realy hit the small ISPs hardest back in the
>> old school modem days. An industry standard used to be 10 users per
>> modem/phone line. "Squatters" caused most of the busy signals that people
>> were so concerned with (except of course, AOL's obtuse marketing . Big
>> boy ISP would just fire the guy who felt it was his right to camp on the
>> line all day (or use a personal account for business purposes). Maybe the
>> guy wuld call and complain, make a (insert ISP name here)sucks.com page,
>> whatever. Doesn't matter to the big company. However, the small ISP who
>> did that risked tremndous loss when the guy does the same thing to the
>> locally owned and operated company, which gets smeared as "greedy."
>>
>> So all that to say, those of us with flat rate, "always on" accounts are
>> getting a sweet deal. Especially those of us who bang the bejeesus out of
>> "consumer" accounts. Remember how much a dialup account cost, say 3-4
>> years ago? Let's enjoy it while it lasts, or even think about how we
>> could form our own access buying group.
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>> Edward Melendez
>> http://www.melendez.org
>>
>>
>>
>> At 10:25 AM 1/30/2002 -0500, Mikey wrote:
>>
>> <crystal_ball time="near future">
>>
>> >I see a bunch of geeks going DSL if $DSL_COMPANY keeps rates < US$100 a
>> >month for service with a static IP.
>> ></crystal_ball>

-- 
Joey Kelly
< Minister of the Gospel | Computer Networking Consultant >
http://joeykelly.dhs.org
"When Government fears the people, it's liberty.
When people fear the Government, it's tyranny."
-- Benjamin Franklin
Ich möchte ein Berliner.
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