Re: [Nolug] Re: [nolug] [nolug] adsl

a bum floppy drive shouldn't stop you from booting. I don't even install
them in my PCs anymore. I have several sans floppy.

So is anyone here using bellsouth FA with USB under Linux?
Also joey, you might want to try the baton rouge LUG as well with your
query. brlug@brlug.net is the list address. www.brlug.net is their
web page.

On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 04:42:24PM -0400, jdtiede@bellsouth.net wrote:
> John S., BellSouth sold me the Alcatel SpeedTouch modem as being compatible with Linux, and indeed Alcatel has released a Linux driver for it. But there is much to do and I have too little experience with either networks or Linux to comprehend it all. Having already spent $100 for the modem, I am reluctant to replace it with something else. I am a retired database programmer (did MS Access in CA and NC until I got disgusted with each new release being worse than the previous one, so switched to Delphi and soon to Kylix if I can get ADSL and a database manager to run under Linux (PostgreSQL or MySQL).
> I am using RH 7.3 on a clone box with 1G AMD (ATX m/b). As of today I can no longer boot because the floppy drive went out; have ordered a new one thru eBay.
> I'll consider the LinkSys router.
> ============================================================
> From: johns@sstar.com
> Date: 2002/09/10 Tue PM 04:23:56 EDT
> To: nolug@joeykelly.net
> Subject: [Nolug] Re: [nolug] [nolug] adsl
>
>
> Hi Joey.
>
> > I'm not sure what a 'simple bridging connection is," ...
>
> Bridging means no routing. In this case it also means no extra level of
> encapsulation (PPPoE or PPPoA). In other words, just a simple, EtherNet LAN
> type of connection.
>
> Indeed, BellSouth started out this way with ADSL originally, but they now use
> PPPoE. I understand that they are gradually upgrading the older installs.
>
> There are pro's and con's to both methods. Bridging is generally easier to set
> up. However, most low-end routers will do the PPPoE for you, thus eliminating
> the extra work. Connecting a single machine with just a modem and no router is
> still easier with Bridging, however, since otherwise you have to load some
> special drivers.
>
> Considering that you have already loaded one driver for the USB modem, this can
> get to be a problem when you upgrade your operating system and need newer
> versions of all the drivers. It's one of the reasons that I generally
> recommend using an external EtherNet modem. You eliminate the need for loading
> the USB driver at the expense of a NIC card for your computer. It also allows
> you to easily add a router later so that you can connect multiple computers.
>
> But I'm getting off topic. :-) Bridging has only one disadvantage. It makes
> you part of a "LAN" which is connected to your ISP. There are more security
> issues with such a connection than with a routed link. This problem was solved
> when Cisco (and others, I don't know?) came out with RBE, Routed-Bridged
> Ethernet. To the user (you) it looks like a simple bridged connection. The
> ISP treats it as routed, however, with a little special handling. No more
> "broadcast" traffic, etc, which you would see on a LAN.
>
> You will find all of these schemes in common use by ADSL (and DSL in general)
> providers. At Southern Star I started with straight bridging, like BellSouth,
> but then I went to RBE. Scott - How do the cable companies run? I believe
> that they started with straight bridging also. I'm not sure how it's done now,
> however.
>
> > At any rate, whatever will let me most easily connect a
> > single machine thru FastAccess is what I'm looking for. I have the
> > SpeedTouch USB modem (external) supplied by BellSouth.
>
> I think that you will find that BellSouth doesn't offer support for Linux.
> Also, if you want to run multiple users you need a business account and their
> modem/router. Or, for a home account, for an extra fee, they will support it
> if you use their modem/router. I'm not fond of the Cayman routers that
> BellSouth uses, by the way. They do the job but they cost too much.
>
> My recommendation to you is to get an external Ethernet ADSL modem. That will
> simplify your life some and allow for easy expansion. If you shop on eBay you
> can pick up a used Alcatel SpeedTouch Home or an Efficient Networks 5360 for
> about $75.
>
> If you want to stay with BellSouth, I'd also get a router and let it do the
> PPPoE for me. Personally, I'd by my own but realize that BellSouth won't
> support any but theirs. The LinkSys BEFSR41 is a very popular model for about
> $70 if you shop, and it includes a 4 port switch!
>
> If you aren't married to BellSouth, then consider switching to an ADSL supplier
> who runs RBE. You won't need the router. You can just plug the modem into a
> NIC card. Configure the NIC with an IP address and that's about it.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> John
>
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