Re: [Nolug] Introducing myself

I think PHP is very good for people like me, who know nothing about
programming and have no education in computer sciences.
Then on the other hand, If I have a need and time to learn other
languages, I will.

The next one I may have to pick up a bit is java. Seems like Android
development is java only and I may have to create an android client to
interface with our content platform.

For a very short period of time, I did consider looking into iPhuck
(iPhoney seems to be taken) SDK, but since leopard does not like to run
in VM, I scraped the idea. Buying an outrageously expensive Macs only
for checking out the SDK is out of the question....

Petri

Dennis J Harrison Jr wrote:
> I have used php here and there since 1998. I will never willingly
> touch it again :)
>
> /RANT ON
>
> It has trash for unit tests and PDO is buggier than all get out. Lack
> of real name spaces is also a minor annoyance. And what really turned
> me off, was I guess... having to constantly fix very poorly written
> code. Not to mention that it completely and totally pales in
> comparison to python/c#/java(shudder)/erlang(syntax?!)/boo/C/etc...
> for any sort of heavy lifting/programmer sanity. Especially in a
> larger code base such as a project like sugarcrm is bound to have.
> And then the wide spread use of smarty... ugh. I guess... if I were
> to use php again today, it would be wielded in a totally different
> manner. But I can't see myself giving up all the easy buttons python
> has spoiled me with.
>
> Have a peak at trellis for an example of something you can't sanely do
> somewhere else.
> http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/Trellis
>
> Also, the much hated ZODB (aka, super pickle!) :)
>
> Although, to each their own. And please forgive my zealous opinion :)
> As I am clearly a python advocate.
>
> My view is that python is the best language to use unless you have a
> very good reason for using another language (you NEED multi threading
> and can't cope using events... etc)
> Which then usually has me in C.
>
> Not to say that I am blind to the much touted reasons for so much dev
> continuing to be done in php. I am just lucky enough not to 'need' to
> use php any more.
>
> /RANT OFF
>
> Africa?! Sounds fun.
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Mark A. Hershberger <mah@everybody.org> wrote:
>
>> "Dennis J Harrison Jr" <dennisharrison@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone use PHP because it is "well supported, and mature" ?
>>>
>> I use PHP because it is available everywhere and almost anyone can pick
>> it up quickly.
>>
>> Which, in some sense, means it is well supported and mature.
>>
>> What fascinates me is how some people use PHP as a fast-and-loose
>> script-it-now language, others use it like C — trying to get as much
>> performance as possible and worrying about things like variable
>> interpolation in strings, and still others (the project I'm working on)
>> use it as a "real" OO language for building enterprise applications.
>>
>> PHP is better at "worse is better" than Perl is. (And, yes, Perl is my
>> true love.)
>>
>> Mark.
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