Re: [Nolug] Introducing myself

> I *could* read that as "the hardware's so powerful, who gives a rat's arse
> about the quality of the source code".

You could do a lot of things with that statement.

You shouldn't.

We are talking differences of languages here. Not quality of source code.

Stop being an ass. This is a conversation.

Are you going to show up for the next meeting?

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> On 12/06/08 23:32, Dennis J Harrison Jr wrote:
>>
>> Ron, you sound like a friend of mine. He is constantly preaching to
>> me how much more math I should learn to write better programs. The
>> only thing I can say is:
>
> If he says that the purpose is to help instill mental rigor, then I'd agree.
> Nothing more than integral calculus is needed, though.
>
>> What is the real world benefit for me to write a program that runs 20%
>> to 300% 'faster'. When 50% of the current speed is more then enough?
>
> You're completely missing the point. The purpose of "knowing hardware" is
> to instill a respect for limits.
>
>> You can argue resource management all day long. However I take those
>> things into consideration. Most of my programs have very limited
>> client side footprints. I know throwing more hardware at a
>> performance issue is barbaric. But I have not had to go there yet.
>> We have SO MUCH head room on our infrastructure for our current
>> customer base... I can't see a reason to spend time making it more
>> efficient when I could spend time adding useful (to humans) code
>> instead.
>
> I *could* read that as "the hardware's so powerful, who gives a rat's arse
> about the quality of the source code".
>
> But I'm sure that's not what you meant... Is it?
>
>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/06/08 15:07, Friedrich Gurtler wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Python is a great learning scripting language, but new programmers
>>>>> *need*
>>>>> to know the hardware. Assembly programming, preferably in MS-DOS or
>>>>> CP/M,
>>>>> would be best.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, and don't let them get near a database before they have written
>>>> their own database engine. I mean, that might lead them to write
>>>> something
>>>> less than perfectly optimal. We couldn't have that.
>>>
>>> What stupidity.
>>>
>>> Having to write rather complete binary tree and hash libraries has
>>> greatly
>>> aided me as a DBA, even though I've never had to use such a hand-rolled
>>> library in 20+ years.
>>>
>>>> Slide rules forever! =P
>>>
>>> Everyone on this list who lived thru Katrina know how dependent upon
>>> technology that Americans have become.
>>>
>>> Knowing how to use slide rules and magnetic compasses, read a map, start
>>> fires without matches, etc, etc are all very useful skills.
>
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> Jefferson LA USA
>
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> What different abilities do I have?
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