Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet

Why are you even trying to argue?

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM, John Souvestre <johns@sstar.com> wrote:
> Hi Ron.
>
> Investments to lay cable are not "already paid for".  The payments are
> committed but often spread over time.  And the associated right-of-way costs
> are ongoing.
>
> The higher cost for higher speed isn't always because of the "last mile"
> (your connection to the ISP).  It also includes what the ISP pays for their
> upstream connections to other ISPs, not to mention the equipment involved.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>     John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:57 pm
> To: nolug@nolug.org
> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>
> But seriously...
>
> Cable and routers are sunk costs: already paid for.  Does it really matter
> if most users are low- to medium-capacity users and some are high-capacity
> users?
>
> It's not like the coax wears out sooner at certain people's houses.
>
> On 09/07/2011 01:47 PM, John Souvestre wrote:
>> Hi Charles.
>>
>> An ISP is a business, not a charity.  Yes, they want to make a profit.
>> You say this as if it is a bad thing.
>>
>> Customers who demand a lot (bandwidth, support, etc) but expect to pay
>> the same are not what an ISP considers their best customers.
>>
>> The US vs the world is an entirely different topic, I think.  :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>>      John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
>> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:27 pm
>> To: nolug@nolug.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>>
>> You mean it cuts into their profits, rather.  ISPs love blaming their
>> best customers for their high rates.
>>
>> This country has some of the worst internet connections, and it has
>> more to do with the industry's regulatory capture of the FTC and FCC.
>>
>> The blame, rather, lies with the lifestyles of the executives and
> investors.
>>
>> All that said:  You are wrong.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, John Souvestre<johns@sstar.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi Charles.
>>>
>>> Possibly, but probably not.  If an ISP supplies unlimited bandwidth
>>> it costs them more.  So they have to charge more.
>>>
>>> As a customer, are you willing to pay twice the rate because of the
>>> top 10% who double the ISP's bandwidth if there is no cap?  Unless
>>> you are in that top 10%, the answer is generally no - hell no!  :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>      John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
>>> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:07 pm
>>> To: nolug@nolug.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>>>
>>> Are there *any* service providers for unmetered, un-capped Internet
>>> access in New Orleans?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Ron Johnson<ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
> wrote:
>>>> Some guy came to the door trying to sel Uverse, but the only way to
>>>> get it cheaper than the Cox bundle was for a lower Internet speed
>>>> and no HD TV channels.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/06/2011 11:27 PM, Brad Bendily wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty sure uverse has similar restrictions for data usage limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB409045#fbid=q79OcqQzj
>>>>> t
>>>>> N
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Chris Jones<techmaster@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:techmaster@gmail.com>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, uverse is looking better and better each day... Half the
>>>>>> price I'm paying now for the same speed, and now this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Ben Bullard
>>>>>> <<mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>benbullard7@aol.com
>>>>>> <mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On 09/06/2011 03:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Data metering. Yay!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     It's a feature! It's for your own good...
>>>>
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