Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet

Wasn't there a huge government grant a while back that was supposed to go
towards exactly that? Funding for laying down a lot of new wiring.
Companies like AT&T got a massive chunk of money, then squandered it away
without actually giving us the improvements we paid for.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM, John Souvestre <johns@sstar.com> wrote:

> Hi Ron.
>
> Investments to lay cable are not "already paid for". The payments are
> committed but often spread over time. And the associated right-of-way
> costs
> are ongoing.
>
> The higher cost for higher speed isn't always because of the "last mile"
> (your connection to the ISP). It also includes what the ISP pays for their
> upstream connections to other ISPs, not to mention the equipment involved.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:57 pm
> To: nolug@nolug.org
> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>
> But seriously...
>
> Cable and routers are sunk costs: already paid for. Does it really matter
> if most users are low- to medium-capacity users and some are high-capacity
> users?
>
> It's not like the coax wears out sooner at certain people's houses.
>
> On 09/07/2011 01:47 PM, John Souvestre wrote:
> > Hi Charles.
> >
> > An ISP is a business, not a charity. Yes, they want to make a profit.
> > You say this as if it is a bad thing.
> >
> > Customers who demand a lot (bandwidth, support, etc) but expect to pay
> > the same are not what an ISP considers their best customers.
> >
> > The US vs the world is an entirely different topic, I think. :)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
> > [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:27 pm
> > To: nolug@nolug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
> >
> > You mean it cuts into their profits, rather. ISPs love blaming their
> > best customers for their high rates.
> >
> > This country has some of the worst internet connections, and it has
> > more to do with the industry's regulatory capture of the FTC and FCC.
> >
> > The blame, rather, lies with the lifestyles of the executives and
> investors.
> >
> > All that said: You are wrong.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, John Souvestre<johns@sstar.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Charles.
> >>
> >> Possibly, but probably not. If an ISP supplies unlimited bandwidth
> >> it costs them more. So they have to charge more.
> >>
> >> As a customer, are you willing to pay twice the rate because of the
> >> top 10% who double the ISP's bandwidth if there is no cap? Unless
> >> you are in that top 10%, the answer is generally no - hell no! :)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
> >> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:07 pm
> >> To: nolug@nolug.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
> >>
> >> Are there *any* service providers for unmetered, un-capped Internet
> >> access in New Orleans?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Ron Johnson<ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
> wrote:
> >>> Some guy came to the door trying to sel Uverse, but the only way to
> >>> get it cheaper than the Cox bundle was for a lower Internet speed
> >>> and no HD TV channels.
> >>>
> >>> On 09/06/2011 11:27 PM, Brad Bendily wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm pretty sure uverse has similar restrictions for data usage limits.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB409045#fbid=q79OcqQzj
> >>>> t
> >>>> N
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Chris Jones<techmaster@gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:techmaster@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Wow, uverse is looking better and better each day... Half the
> >>>>> price I'm paying now for the same speed, and now this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Ben Bullard
> >>>>> <<mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>benbullard7@aol.com
> >>>>> <mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 09/06/2011 03:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Data metering. Yay!!!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's a feature! It's for your own good...
> >>>
>
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