Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet

ive seen at&t pulling up about a dozen boxes in the median lately, so
the grant IS doing something to improve. Theyre also dropping brand
new ones in their place

On 9/7/11, Chris Jones <techmaster@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wasn't there a huge government grant a while back that was supposed to go
> towards exactly that? Funding for laying down a lot of new wiring.
> Companies like AT&T got a massive chunk of money, then squandered it away
> without actually giving us the improvements we paid for.
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:14 PM, John Souvestre <johns@sstar.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron.
>>
>> Investments to lay cable are not "already paid for". The payments are
>> committed but often spread over time. And the associated right-of-way
>> costs
>> are ongoing.
>>
>> The higher cost for higher speed isn't always because of the "last mile"
>> (your connection to the ISP). It also includes what the ISP pays for
>> their
>> upstream connections to other ISPs, not to mention the equipment involved.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>> John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
>> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:57 pm
>> To: nolug@nolug.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>>
>> But seriously...
>>
>> Cable and routers are sunk costs: already paid for. Does it really matter
>> if most users are low- to medium-capacity users and some are high-capacity
>> users?
>>
>> It's not like the coax wears out sooner at certain people's houses.
>>
>> On 09/07/2011 01:47 PM, John Souvestre wrote:
>> > Hi Charles.
>> >
>> > An ISP is a business, not a charity. Yes, they want to make a profit.
>> > You say this as if it is a bad thing.
>> >
>> > Customers who demand a lot (bandwidth, support, etc) but expect to pay
>> > the same are not what an ISP considers their best customers.
>> >
>> > The US vs the world is an entirely different topic, I think. :)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
>> > [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:27 pm
>> > To: nolug@nolug.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>> >
>> > You mean it cuts into their profits, rather. ISPs love blaming their
>> > best customers for their high rates.
>> >
>> > This country has some of the worst internet connections, and it has
>> > more to do with the industry's regulatory capture of the FTC and FCC.
>> >
>> > The blame, rather, lies with the lifestyles of the executives and
>> investors.
>> >
>> > All that said: You are wrong.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, John Souvestre<johns@sstar.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi Charles.
>> >>
>> >> Possibly, but probably not. If an ISP supplies unlimited bandwidth
>> >> it costs them more. So they have to charge more.
>> >>
>> >> As a customer, are you willing to pay twice the rate because of the
>> >> top 10% who double the ISP's bandwidth if there is no cap? Unless
>> >> you are in that top 10%, the answer is generally no - hell no! :)
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
>> >> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:07 pm
>> >> To: nolug@nolug.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>> >>
>> >> Are there *any* service providers for unmetered, un-capped Internet
>> >> access in New Orleans?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Ron Johnson<ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Some guy came to the door trying to sel Uverse, but the only way to
>> >>> get it cheaper than the Cox bundle was for a lower Internet speed
>> >>> and no HD TV channels.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 09/06/2011 11:27 PM, Brad Bendily wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm pretty sure uverse has similar restrictions for data usage
>> >>>> limits.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB409045#fbid=q79OcqQzj
>> >>>> t
>> >>>> N
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Chris Jones<techmaster@gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:techmaster@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Wow, uverse is looking better and better each day... Half the
>> >>>>> price I'm paying now for the same speed, and now this?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Ben Bullard
>> >>>>> <<mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>benbullard7@aol.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 09/06/2011 03:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Data metering. Yay!!!!!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It's a feature! It's for your own good...
>> >>>
>>
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