RE: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet

Hi Ron.

Investments to lay cable are not "already paid for". The payments are
committed but often spread over time. And the associated right-of-way costs
are ongoing.

The higher cost for higher speed isn't always because of the "last mile"
(your connection to the ISP). It also includes what the ISP pays for their
upstream connections to other ISPs, not to mention the equipment involved.

Regards,

John

    John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
[mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Ron Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:57 pm
To: nolug@nolug.org
Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet

But seriously...

Cable and routers are sunk costs: already paid for. Does it really matter
if most users are low- to medium-capacity users and some are high-capacity
users?

It's not like the coax wears out sooner at certain people's houses.

On 09/07/2011 01:47 PM, John Souvestre wrote:
> Hi Charles.
>
> An ISP is a business, not a charity. Yes, they want to make a profit.
> You say this as if it is a bad thing.
>
> Customers who demand a lot (bandwidth, support, etc) but expect to pay
> the same are not what an ISP considers their best customers.
>
> The US vs the world is an entirely different topic, I think. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:27 pm
> To: nolug@nolug.org
> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>
> You mean it cuts into their profits, rather. ISPs love blaming their
> best customers for their high rates.
>
> This country has some of the worst internet connections, and it has
> more to do with the industry's regulatory capture of the FTC and FCC.
>
> The blame, rather, lies with the lifestyles of the executives and
investors.
>
> All that said: You are wrong.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, John Souvestre<johns@sstar.com> wrote:
>> Hi Charles.
>>
>> Possibly, but probably not. If an ISP supplies unlimited bandwidth
>> it costs them more. So they have to charge more.
>>
>> As a customer, are you willing to pay twice the rate because of the
>> top 10% who double the ISP's bandwidth if there is no cap? Unless
>> you are in that top 10%, the answer is generally no - hell no! :)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
>> John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org
>> [mailto:owner-nolug@stoney.kellynet.org] On Behalf Of Charles Paul
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:07 pm
>> To: nolug@nolug.org
>> Subject: Re: [Nolug] New feature of Cox High Speed Internet
>>
>> Are there *any* service providers for unmetered, un-capped Internet
>> access in New Orleans?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Ron Johnson<ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
wrote:
>>> Some guy came to the door trying to sel Uverse, but the only way to
>>> get it cheaper than the Cox bundle was for a lower Internet speed
>>> and no HD TV channels.
>>>
>>> On 09/06/2011 11:27 PM, Brad Bendily wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure uverse has similar restrictions for data usage limits.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB409045#fbid=q79OcqQzj
>>>> t
>>>> N
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Chris Jones<techmaster@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:techmaster@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, uverse is looking better and better each day... Half the
>>>>> price I'm paying now for the same speed, and now this?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Ben Bullard
>>>>> <<mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>benbullard7@aol.com
>>>>> <mailto:benbullard7@aol.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/06/2011 03:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Data metering. Yay!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a feature! It's for your own good...
>>>

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