Facebook, arguably the largest web application in existence, is built on
LAMP(HP). Facebook has done their part to move the language [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HipHop_for_PHP] and mysql [
https://www.facebook.com/MySQLatFacebook].
Jerry Wilborn
jerrywilborn@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:07 AM, B. Estrade <estrabd@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think you're asking for a fight! :P ... unless you show the 2 scripts,
> there is no way to tell if, for example you replaced a really slow custom
> routine with one of PHP 8,000 optimized, supported function calls. Just
> because Perl doesn't pollute its name space and provides a minimal set of
> non-Unix related functions doesn't mean that it can scream with speed. You
> just know how to get it be nice to you.
>
> PHP is fine for small scale sites. Not fine for system scripts. It's a
> template language, no more functional than Perl's TemplateToolkit. In fact,
> if TT was around when PHP was first created as a Perl script, then PHP
> would never have been born.
>
> That said, PHP was my second "web" language (following close on the heels
> of HTMLScript/MivaScript). Perl was actually for me a systems language
> first, then I decided to make the leap into using it for web and have been
> very happy with it. For example Perl's CGI::Application + TT is a win all
> day long, and this is even in light of the PSGI based Perl frameworks out
> there.
>
> I know PHP is very popular and I think that if it gets people to program,
> then it's a win no matter what. It definitely has Perl beat when it comes
> to accessibility and learning curve.
>
> Brett
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Jerry Wilborn <jerrywilborn@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Throwing down the gauntlet(!): I believe I could port any Perl parsing
>> script to PHP that would best it in simplicity and speed. One (slightly
>> off topic) example is I've ported https://code.google.com/p/snmp-session/to PHP and the speed was significantly increased (doubled) on similar
>> hardware.
>>
>> That said, I'm reminded of the phrase "when your only tool is a hammer,
>> everything looks like a nail." I think all of the languages have their
>> advantages; PHP just seems to have so many more. ;)
>>
>> Jerry Wilborn
>> jerrywilborn@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM, John Fox <john@foxfin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> #! /usr/bin/perl.
>>>
>>> I work in the financial industry, thus run ETLs on massive text files
>>> from mainframe datasets.
>>>
>>> Larry Wall rocks........
>>>
>>> ----
>>> John Fox
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On August 20, 2013 9:41:21 PM Joey Kelly <joey@joeykelly.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I started out with PHP, then switched to Perl some years back, after
>>>> which my skills and understanding blossomed.
>>>>
>>>> That's me... what about you? Friends tell me that folks are choosing PHP
>>>> less, now that Ruby and node.js are in town. What are your opinions of
>>>> those, and of Java? I'm not even mentioning languages that run on That
>>>> Other Operating System, because this is a family-oriented list.
>>>>
>>>>
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