[Nolug] Political organisation

On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 17:15, Michael Flora wrote:
> --- "Mark A. Hershberger" <mah@everybody.org> wrote:
> >
> > (My mother keeps telling me "Don't feed the trolls"
> > but I never
> > listen.)
> >
> > Michael Flora <michaelrflora@yahoo.com> writes:
[snip]
> > > "All we are saying is give peace a chance" -- John
> > > Lennon (what a laugh!)
> >
> > Why is this a laugh? Is the nation/state that vital
> > to the our
> > continued existence?
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> I don't think that the traditional nation-state is
> vital to our continued existence, but it IS vital to
> the various military machines around the world (the
> U.S. Pentagon, the Chinese Pentagon, etc.). They,
> after all, are the Guys With Guns, and they have the
> power to ensure that things don't change. I don't
> think that anybody wants to see the world blown up
> (except for a few crazies like Osama) but there are
> plenty of people who benefit from keeping the world
> right on the edge of being blown up.

The "problem" is that there are no other viable alternatives.

One-world government by the UN? You want to talk about
*RAMPANT* incompetance and corruption. It's fscking
incredible.

The other alternative would be the corporate-state, and we see
hints about how bad that would be.

Remember, Winston Churchill said that, "democracy is the worst
form of rule, apart from all the rest".

> "Power grows from the barrel of a gun" -- Mao Zedong

Repeat that everytime someone says "All we are saying is give
peace a chance". But as Mark says, it's not the only power,
and it is short-lived. One of the reasons the US has power
is that it is a *relatively* free society. Except for Barbara
Steisand (who threatens to leave every time a Republican is
elected President) and one or two extremests on debian-user,
the US attracts people, not repels them.

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