RE: [Nolug] BellSouth Wants to Rig the Internet

Hi Brett.

I forgot about the Internet Cafes. Yes! And I have two of them as my
customers. I wonder for how much longer...

John

    John Souvestre - Southern Star - (504) 888-3348 - www.sstar.com

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nolug@nolug.org [mailto:owner-nolug@nolug.org] On Behalf Of Brett
D. Estrade
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:01 PM
To: nolug@nolug.org
Subject: RE: [Nolug] BellSouth Wants to Rig the Internet

On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:22:42 -0600, "John Souvestre" <johns@sstar.com>
said:
> What's the "emergency" need for 512K vs the legal 128K? 128K is all you
> need
> to do email and credit card verifications.

The "emergency" thing to me just looks like a way to max out the
bandwidth - in essence, they are taking advantage of the situation to
get around the legal limit. Is this right? Who knows, but it is
obviously an advantage when trying to promote this as a way to entice
people and businesses back.

Also, as Jeremy noted, not many people would likely jumpship. I know I
wouldn't unless I had 100% faith that the wifi would be up 24/7. If
anyone might be getting their knees cut out from under them, it is the
coffee shops that provide free wifi. On the otherhand, that might save
them an extra $40/mo if they could provide a place to sit while you
surfed via CITYOFNO.

>
> Overall, I don't see it as a BIG threat. After all: No static IP,
> probably
> no tech support (just my guess), no security (anyone can capture your
> data),
> and no coverage in areas which I don't already cover.
>
> I guess that I view this as a pothole in the Internet Highway. <g>
>
> John
>
> John Souvestre - Southern Star - (504) 888-3348 - www.sstar.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nolug@nolug.org [mailto:owner-nolug@nolug.org] On Behalf Of
> Brett
> D. Estrade
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:02 PM
> To: nolug@nolug.org
> Subject: RE: [Nolug] BellSouth Wants to Rig the Internet
>
> Doesn't that mean they are a competitor of yours as well? You are
> looking at it from a different perspective, which I understand - but
> here is how most look at it ....
>
> - hurricane hits
> - bell south tries to do a good thing (presumably innocent at first,
> but..)
> - NO opens wifi (which totally freaking rox0rz for 99.99% of those who
> are affected by it)
> - bell south cries foul, take ball home
>
> New Orleans right now is in no place to be a fair, competitive market.
> The area will require YEARS of gov't subsidies and special treatment to
> get back on its feat. It is going to be a unfair market place for years
> to come, but at the end of the day this will be good. It goes way
> beyond just internet - NO unwilling has become a test bed for many
> programs and efforts that have only been talk until now. If even a
> fraction of these new ways of thinking work out, we will be better off.
> You may not agree (understandably), but I think John Q. Public would.
>
> Brett
>
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:48:56 -0600, "John Souvestre" <johns@sstar.com>
> said:
> > Hi Brett.
> >
> > I don't agree. :-) The City decided to position themselves as a
> > competitor
> > to BellSouth and other ISP's (me included). I don't see anything fair
> > about a
> > tax subsidized monopoly as a competitor.
> >
> > John
> >
> > John Souvestre - Southern Star - (504) 888-3348 - www.sstar.com
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-nolug@nolug.org [mailto:owner-nolug@nolug.org] On Behalf Of
> > Brett
> > D. Estrade
> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:49 AM
> > To: nolug@nolug.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nolug] BellSouth Wants to Rig the Internet
> >
> > They're not a competitor of mine so I'll say it - fsck'em, they can kiss
> > my lily white ass. There are enough offers of help that this will make
> > no impact, plus it makes them look like whining babies. If they don't
> > want to compete in NO, then that just opens up the door for true
> > competition and is better for us in the long run.
> >
> > Brett
> >
> > On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:09:14 -0600, "Charles Jouglard" <pcguy1@cox.net>
> > said:
> > > Since it is very unprofessional to make comments about competitors I am
> > > only
> > > providing the link.
> > >
> > > To add to the press BellSouth is receiving this week...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Angry BellSouth Withdrew Donation, New Orleans Says"
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/02/AR200512020185
> > 3.
> > > html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:00:54 -0600, Chris Johnston wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/01/203229&from=rss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > &#65533;
> > > Cheers,
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
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